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Lagg · Jul 30, 2005, 05:14 PM // 17:14

I'm sure we're all aware of the trans-atlantic exodus taking place due to lack of favour in Europe.

So how long will it be before Europe stops winning favour altogether and American servers just collapse due to the added load of European migrators?

Being a European still faithful to our old world's servers, I'd ask Anet to seriously consider putting everyone back where he or she belongs. Sure, I'll be branded as Dr. Goebbels, the anti-Christ, Oprah Winfrey or even worse just for bringing this up, but I do think it would rebalance things a little for Europe.

So how exactly would this work? Well, by checking the user's IP, of course. There will always be ways to circumvent this system (by using IP spoofers and the likes), but it would get most people back home and fighting for their motherland.

As for trading and playing with people of the two other regions, we'll always have the International districts.

FOR SOVIET RUSSIA!!!

EDIT: See below for different suggestion.

Nash · Jul 30, 2005, 05:28 PM // 17:28

Europe can crash and burn. You wanna be a scrub letting arbitrary text labels dictate your teammates and your access to certain areas, whatever, just don't try to force the rest of us to join you in your misery.

sidepocket13 · Jul 30, 2005, 05:32 PM // 17:32

ok so europe had lag problems, and never had favor. so they are working on the lag and the players all came to america to get favor............ why not go back and help your countrymen with your new found skills playing in the american servers? not a flame, not a suggestion, its a question!

Numa Pompilius · Jul 30, 2005, 05:33 PM // 17:33

I say let the US keep them.

Lagg · Jul 30, 2005, 05:39 PM // 17:39

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Originally Posted by Nash

Europe can crash and burn. You wanna be a scrub letting arbitrary text labels dictate your teammates and your access to certain areas, whatever, just don't try to force the rest of us to join you in your misery.

Well, geographically speaking, you'll get better latency to European servers. Except for Icelanders, maybe. But I don't think they consider themselves to be Europeans in the first place.

Hardly arbitrary, I'd say.

Also, it's America that will crash and burn because of the huge amount of added strain.

By the time it took you to read this, at least one European switched to an American server*.

(*) Yes I just totally made that figure up. I should become a politician.

PieXags · Jul 30, 2005, 05:41 PM // 17:41

Well one thing first, the American servers can definately handle the European players coming over.

Now then, other than that, I do think they should get their asses back over to European servers, either that or something should be done so that favor ISN'T SPLIT UP BY REAL-WORLD REGIONS...that way people could just choose to join a fictional faction, and it's those factions that compete...not the real world, then everyone'd be happy 'cause many people from all the countries could be in one faction kickin' all the other faction's asses.

Lagg · Jul 30, 2005, 05:50 PM // 17:50

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Originally Posted by PieXags

Well one thing first, the American servers can definately handle the European players coming over.

Well, yes, at the moment, maybe. But won't there ever be a breaking point? Not that the whole of Europe will actually switch, but I do think the situation will keep on worsening.

And even if the servers can handle all the influx, I don't think Anet would be too happy with "fully"-loaded American servers and only "half"-loaded European ones.

Anyways, a different suggestion.

Why not merge the American and European region? And then assign people to the geographically closest server, all the while staying in the same realm and fighting for the same cause.

United against Korea we stand.

medikamen · Jul 30, 2005, 06:03 PM // 18:03

I totally disagree, loads of North Americans live in Europe and vice versa. Forcing people into servers they don't want to be in would create a lot of whining/complaining. I think the faction idea is really cool, it would give a World Of Warcraft kinda thing (orcs fight vs humans and vs undead and vs elves and whatever other commonly overused races there are in that game) , it's like being part of a micro community inside a community

Plus, Koreans are getting very impopular on European servers, frustration leads people to say stupid stuff like "they always have the favor because they fight for food" *sigh*

Nash · Jul 30, 2005, 06:08 PM // 18:08

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Originally Posted by Lagg

Well, geographically speaking, you'll get better latency to European servers.

I'm not having any lag problems. From what I hear, it's Europe having lag issues.

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Originally Posted by Lagg

Also, it's America that will crash and burn because of the huge amount of added strain.

Seems unlikely.

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Originally Posted by PieXags

Now then, other than that, I do think they should get their asses back over to European servers,

And I should let you dictate what server I play on why?

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Originally Posted by Lagg

And even if the servers can handle all the influx, I don't think Anet would be too happy with "fully"-loaded American servers and only "half"-loaded European ones.

Maybe they should have thought of that before making stupid restrictions?

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Originally Posted by Lagg

Why not merge the American and European region?

That's what we're doing by moving to America server cluster.

Numa Pompilius · Jul 30, 2005, 06:22 PM // 18:22

Not that european servers are half loaded, at least not the English language servers. The heavy load is the reason we're getting lag.

Possibly we simply have fewer servers, of course. How many districts are there typically in post-searing Ascalon in the US?

Right now (8 o'clock in the evening) there's 23 districts in "european" Ascalon, out of which 8 English, 6 German, 6 French, 2 Spanish and 1 Italian. The English districts are well-populated, didn't check the others.

johnnylange · Jul 30, 2005, 06:50 PM // 18:50

I really hate it when people bring up all these racial remarks.

"Lag" can be the result of many diffrent things. Unless you're job is manging the GW servers, you don't have a clue as to what the lag problem is.

Mugon M. Musashi · Jul 30, 2005, 07:29 PM // 19:29

The idea to split the population of a virtual game by their real geographic location is just stupid anyway

I say ALL europeans, move to US servers and show ArenaNet we want a new system

Lagg · Jul 30, 2005, 07:44 PM // 19:44

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Originally Posted by Mugon M. Musashi

The idea to split the population of a virtual game by their real geographic location is just stupid anyway

I say ALL europeans, move to US servers and show ArenaNet we want a new system

I agree.

In essence, it's not about latency, lag or ethnicity (why is there always someone who has to bring this up?), but about the fact that Europe isn't getting any favour since we have fewer players and hence fewer good teams.

It's simple statistics.

Speaking of which, who has favour most often? America or Korea?

ocoini · Jul 30, 2005, 07:49 PM // 19:49

Uhm.. Last I heared, ALL the gw servers are located in America, even the korean ones...

Darriths Novastar · Jul 30, 2005, 07:55 PM // 19:55

Straight from Arena Nets support website

"Question
How many servers does Guild Wars have?
Answer
Guild Wars has many servers located at data centers around the globe."

http://support.guildwars.com/cgi-bin...i=&p_topview=1

Lagg · Jul 30, 2005, 07:56 PM // 19:56

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Originally Posted by ocoini

Uhm.. Last I heared, ALL the gw servers are located in America, even the korean ones...

Say what?

Can anyone confirm this?

Mayar third Keeper · Jul 30, 2005, 08:05 PM // 20:05

i changed to the american servers becaus of the waw system. i dont like it as it is atm and the only way to force anet to change it, is that more people join one server. Fortunatelly the waw system kills itselfs because people change to the server with the most favour. (i dont mention the american server is not only the server for the americans its the server of all none europeans/koreans)

i remeber the time befor waw and i remeber we were one community. Now we are dumb americans, stupid koreans and european losers... this makes me sad.

dont change back to europe until the changed this!

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The idea to split the population of a virtual game by their real geographic location is just stupid anyway I say ALL europeans, move to US servers and show ArenaNet we want a new system

full ack!

DrSLUGFly · Jul 30, 2005, 08:06 PM // 20:06

I think that it's impossible to discuss WaW even on the forums without it degrading into retarded nationalism... a key sign that it needs be done away with.

Darriths Novastar · Jul 30, 2005, 08:16 PM // 20:16

Hate to be bother what is WaW anyway?

Silmor · Jul 30, 2005, 08:20 PM // 20:20

As long as there is no International shard that has people fighting for it in order to gain favor, I'll stick to the shard that has the most of my guildmates on it- the American one. I don't need to be told who I can explore the Underworld with just because I live in a different country, World of Warcraft tried to do this and that was one of the major reasons why I decided not to buy it.